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22/03/2024 - Vocal n° 66 - 50:40 : 560 - Complete solution found on the internet - Not logical - Circular reference

(Q - Ed: Does the complete 560 solution exist on the Internet? By that I mean complete, that is to say the one that leads to the zone. Does 'can it be found on the Internet? Does it exist on the Internet?)

MB: I feel like Google will make a little more money based on my response. That you can find the 560 on the internet, well yes. Yes, oh well, it's funny because in fact, there are so many people who have worked on the subject for 30 years, 31 years, that even on this 560 with its circular reference, there are people who have found solutions. And among these solutions, there are some who have found the solution. Which is not a solution in itself, since they cannot demonstrate that it is the solution. That's what's evil.
But yes, yes. The big problem with this riddle is that it is based on something which is... which led me to make this parallel with a circular reference. So that means that there is something that is not very logical in it. It works, but there is something not logical. And since it's not logical, most of the owls, in fact, couldn't find it, since it wasn't logical. But there were some who extrapolated, who tried to find meaning in it all, and who ended up finding it. So that can be found on the Internet.

(Q - Ed: And when you say that it is not logical, that is to say that those who had solved it, they did not find the logic, perhaps because they didn't have the right ones before?)

MB: But they solved it without being able to demonstrate that they had solved it, since there is a somewhat paradoxical side to what they found, which is correct, but which is not demonstrable, since it was not part of what was given in the riddle. What is given in the riddle, normally, does not allow it to be solved. So.

(Q - Ed: And to demonstrate it either, since we cannot demonstrate…)

MB: Do not demonstrate it under any circumstances, and do not allow it to be resolved, except by extrapolating things which, indeed, this time, are not demonstrable. These are extrapolations. We are able to say, well, I found this, it works well. So that leads me somewhere, etc... But there is no irrefutable demonstration, precisely because a determining element is missing in this enigma.

(Q - Ed: Okay. And when you talk about circular reference, I don't have the reference.)

MB: The circular reference means that we start from something, we construct reasoning and we end up somewhere. Except that this something from which we start, if we vary it even a little, it no longer works.
And to say, he is like that, he is not otherwise, we need information which does not exist in this enigma. If you like, there is no element in the enigma that would allow us to say that it is that and nothing else. So, there is a case, it can work, but if we move the lines a little, now is the time to say it, it no longer works.

(Q - Ed: Okay, and like you said circular, circle, is there a little something to understand there?)

MB: No, no, there is no little something, nothing else.

(Q - Uncle Nono: When you say: “Find it on the internet complete”, you also told us that no one had this trait that you showed us, so it cannot be found in internet solutions since you said no one had that trait.)

MB: Those who had it, there were a few who had it, but they had it differently, not quite the same logic.

(Q - Ed: Okay, ok, ok. And if this trait, sorry, is aimed at something that is not necessarily on current maps??)

MB: It's the principle of the circular reference, that is to say, the principle is that they started from the solution to understand the enigma. That's the circular reference. In fact, they have found an explanation that they consider to be a solution, but they have no way of proving that it is the solution.

(Q - Ed: I have the impression that you are giving me the solution…)

MB: I don't know if I'm giving you the solution. Especially since there are potentially several, but those who found something that fits well, they started from what they thought was the solution, they worked backwards, that's the principle of the reference circular. They went around in the other direction and then they said, like this, it fits, we'll take this.