(Q - Ed: My question is important because for me, if someone tells me, there it is, it's important to resolve the first nine in the right way, obviously, by listening to your vocals, I must
concentrate on certain things. An example that we all know, the black ship perched with the place to find. So, if I isolate this enigma, I open the book for the first time in my life, I only take this.
riddle, the others, I don't know them And there, you tell us that there is a place to find So once again, if to have the right area, you have to have the first 9, concerning this riddle,.
Me, I'm still racking my brain, I know that I'm not the only one in the place to find 600, well... And looking on the Internet, there aren't that many.)
MB: What is the wording of the 600?
(Q - ??: When Al-mar allies with the Fibula of Preneste, darkness shines.)
MB: Yes. And when do we talk about the black ship perched?
(Q - ??: Right after, in fact, in the deciphering of the enigma.)
MB: Go ahead, read.
MB: You don't have it in front of you, I don't have it either.
(Q - Ed: No, unfortunately, I don't have the book. But in any case, it's the symbols of the atomic masses which, once deciphered, give us the sentence, the key cache on a black ship perched.)
MB: So that means there is a black ship perched which contains or is a key, do we agree? [yes]
And what is the black ship perched, in your logic, of someone who has never seen the other enigmas?
(Q - Ed: It's more of an object.)
MB: It’s an object, but it’s an object that flies, that moves?
(Q - Ed: No, rather that is fixed. Same, we will say that I have not seen the other enigmas, on the other hand, I listened to all your vocals. So yes, in relation to everything that has been said, it is an object which does not move, which is fixed.)
MB: So that's somewhere.
(Q - Ed: Which is somewhere, yes.)
MB: So somewhere, what is it?
(Q - Ed: It's a place. Now we have to find this place.)
MB: Well there you go. So. And so when we have... So there, you take this enigma by saying, I didn't see the others.
But if you know the previous riddles, or even the following ones, and you are thinking about all this, in my opinion, with a little logic, you need to find a place.
(Q - Hoshi: It’s Caréna.)
(Q - ??: Yes, I could find it later. But in this sense, without consulting the other puzzles, even you…)
MB: There are some who found it at that level. There are some who find it a little later, it's not a handicap either. But actually, my point is not to say that you necessarily have to find it at that time. My point is to say that this enigma is supposed to define, point, call it what you want, a place.
(Q - Ed: Okay, point out a place. Probably, we'll find it later. That's where you lose some of the owls, because there are some who break their heads. teeth, a bit like me, trying to find the location in this riddle only.)
MB: It's very good that we have this exchange, because I wouldn't want to leave you in a complete fog either. We must return to the structure of the game. I will repeat to you what I said earlier, namely that I am suspected of being full of contradictions, of saying one thing one day, another day another. I have actually evolved since the start of my resumption of the game. My words have evolved due to the knowledge I have today of the community, of your reactions, I know you even better since I read the solutions, they are very instructive for me, especially since many of you add a few lines which I do not fail to read, so I understand very very well your state of mind and for some the way in which they are lost.
These puzzles were not designed by someone who is, as we could define it today, since it has become a bit of a profession which is a treasure hunt organizer.
Treasure hunts have become a business, so this company will order one from this company or this organizer to advertise, to promote, etc. So, there are people who are hunt organizers. This was not the case for Max Valentin, who did something much vaguer, much less precise, and a route which is not at all what a hunt organizer could do today.
He had a different logic, it was the logic of a guy who, once in his life or twice in his life, had organized surprise rallies, which was not his specialty either. He did car rallying at one time, but he did surprise rallying once or twice for clients. He wasn't a great surprise rally organizer either, but he left on that basis, which has nothing to do with what hunt organizers do today.
So you don't have to be a purist about it, you have to keep an open mind by saying well, that's why I always say that you have to be interested in Max, in Max's character. Because in fact, there are times when you can say to yourself, but it's a bit absurd, why he makes us do this, etc. Because he, in his logic, thought that it would bring something to the players, etc.
And in parentheses, the supposed players of the 80s and 90s, when the game was designed, did not at all have the profile of today's players who are much more seasoned, much more documented with the Internet. So it was an entirely different context.
So do not try to place this game, the game of the golden owl, to compare it or to place it in a contemporary logic. Always remember that this is a game that was developed by someone 40-45 years ago, almost 50 years ago.
MB: What is the wording of the 600?
(Q - ??: When Al-mar allies with the Fibula of Preneste, darkness shines.)
MB: Yes. And when do we talk about the black ship perched?
(Q - ??: Right after, in fact, in the deciphering of the enigma.)
MB: Go ahead, read.
MB: You don't have it in front of you, I don't have it either.
(Q - Ed: No, unfortunately, I don't have the book. But in any case, it's the symbols of the atomic masses which, once deciphered, give us the sentence, the key cache on a black ship perched.)
MB: So that means there is a black ship perched which contains or is a key, do we agree? [yes]
And what is the black ship perched, in your logic, of someone who has never seen the other enigmas?
(Q - Ed: It's more of an object.)
MB: It’s an object, but it’s an object that flies, that moves?
(Q - Ed: No, rather that is fixed. Same, we will say that I have not seen the other enigmas, on the other hand, I listened to all your vocals. So yes, in relation to everything that has been said, it is an object which does not move, which is fixed.)
MB: So that's somewhere.
(Q - Ed: Which is somewhere, yes.)
MB: So somewhere, what is it?
(Q - Ed: It's a place. Now we have to find this place.)
MB: Well there you go. So. And so when we have... So there, you take this enigma by saying, I didn't see the others.
But if you know the previous riddles, or even the following ones, and you are thinking about all this, in my opinion, with a little logic, you need to find a place.
(Q - Hoshi: It’s Caréna.)
(Q - ??: Yes, I could find it later. But in this sense, without consulting the other puzzles, even you…)
MB: There are some who found it at that level. There are some who find it a little later, it's not a handicap either. But actually, my point is not to say that you necessarily have to find it at that time. My point is to say that this enigma is supposed to define, point, call it what you want, a place.
(Q - Ed: Okay, point out a place. Probably, we'll find it later. That's where you lose some of the owls, because there are some who break their heads. teeth, a bit like me, trying to find the location in this riddle only.)
MB: It's very good that we have this exchange, because I wouldn't want to leave you in a complete fog either. We must return to the structure of the game. I will repeat to you what I said earlier, namely that I am suspected of being full of contradictions, of saying one thing one day, another day another. I have actually evolved since the start of my resumption of the game. My words have evolved due to the knowledge I have today of the community, of your reactions, I know you even better since I read the solutions, they are very instructive for me, especially since many of you add a few lines which I do not fail to read, so I understand very very well your state of mind and for some the way in which they are lost.
These puzzles were not designed by someone who is, as we could define it today, since it has become a bit of a profession which is a treasure hunt organizer.
Treasure hunts have become a business, so this company will order one from this company or this organizer to advertise, to promote, etc. So, there are people who are hunt organizers. This was not the case for Max Valentin, who did something much vaguer, much less precise, and a route which is not at all what a hunt organizer could do today.
He had a different logic, it was the logic of a guy who, once in his life or twice in his life, had organized surprise rallies, which was not his specialty either. He did car rallying at one time, but he did surprise rallying once or twice for clients. He wasn't a great surprise rally organizer either, but he left on that basis, which has nothing to do with what hunt organizers do today.
So you don't have to be a purist about it, you have to keep an open mind by saying well, that's why I always say that you have to be interested in Max, in Max's character. Because in fact, there are times when you can say to yourself, but it's a bit absurd, why he makes us do this, etc. Because he, in his logic, thought that it would bring something to the players, etc.
And in parentheses, the supposed players of the 80s and 90s, when the game was designed, did not at all have the profile of today's players who are much more seasoned, much more documented with the Internet. So it was an entirely different context.
So do not try to place this game, the game of the golden owl, to compare it or to place it in a contemporary logic. Always remember that this is a game that was developed by someone 40-45 years ago, almost 50 years ago.