17/07/2023 - Vocal n° 61 - 47:50 : Zone - Medium city - Concept and chronology on the end of hunting
(Q - Imastoun: So the word zone, of course, you also use, it was introduced by Max Valentin but it has its justification in fact it is the only word that distinguishes for a researcher, who
validates the starting location, without this word, for a researcher, it will be very very difficult to know if he is in the right place. If Max has, I think eh, it's an idea like that, I think.
that Max when he introduced this word, it was perhaps because he understood that without this word, it would be difficult to identify the place of departure.
MB: But Max never introduced this word eh. He recovered it in the context of the madits…
(Q - Imastoun: Yes in the answers.)
MB: But I sincerely think, for the exchanges I had with him at the time when we developed all this a little bit, his idea, it was never that kind of thing. It was we arrive somewhere..., when we go on a treasure hunt, well overall, most of the stories that we can know or that we can have in our imagination, which are part of the collective imagination, a story of treasure, we arrive somewhere and there it is, Coco Island, it’s something like that, the Treasure is hidden somewhere.
But we never introduce the notion of zone, introduce the notion of zone, it's extremely disturbing, because well, we saw that some had fun at..., well, had fun, perhaps not all of them, moreover, but had the need to trace the area by imagining that it had this or that outline, that there was a logic…
(Q - Imastoun: sorry, excuse me, but in saying that, he clarified a hundred times that it was not necessary.)
MB: Yes, but you shouldn't say it then. I mean, what's disturbing about madits is that you find everything and its opposite, exactly. If we say, it is not necessary to draw an area, we have not defined it as having the size of an average city. What is the logic? There are not any. I tell you, it's not necessary to trace it, well, it's not necessary to trace it.
(Q - Imastoun: The word zone validates the place of departure.)
MB: I don’t see, why?
(Q - Imastoun: It is the only word that differentiates from other possible places.)
MB: I don’t understand why? The starting location is not an area. Well, I don't understand.
(Q - Imastoun: If I may, I intervened because you said, if I may, I would like to summarize, if you allow the ultimate solution, That is to say the last part of the hunt to make sure I understood correctly?)
MB: We'll try, but I'm afraid you're getting too personal, but try.
(Q - Imastoun: Okay, so I review the sentries with the help of the sentries. I also find the final zone there and in this final zone, I find a point that I can consider as this is the point where I have to change the gear and from that moment, I apply according to your words, so I apply the result of 71721075 of the enigma 650 and I apply the pirate's trick to find the cache. Did I summarize correctly or am I missing something?)
MB: What you're talking about is quite complicated, it's not quite the reality.
MB: But Max never introduced this word eh. He recovered it in the context of the madits…
(Q - Imastoun: Yes in the answers.)
MB: But I sincerely think, for the exchanges I had with him at the time when we developed all this a little bit, his idea, it was never that kind of thing. It was we arrive somewhere..., when we go on a treasure hunt, well overall, most of the stories that we can know or that we can have in our imagination, which are part of the collective imagination, a story of treasure, we arrive somewhere and there it is, Coco Island, it’s something like that, the Treasure is hidden somewhere.
But we never introduce the notion of zone, introduce the notion of zone, it's extremely disturbing, because well, we saw that some had fun at..., well, had fun, perhaps not all of them, moreover, but had the need to trace the area by imagining that it had this or that outline, that there was a logic…
(Q - Imastoun: sorry, excuse me, but in saying that, he clarified a hundred times that it was not necessary.)
MB: Yes, but you shouldn't say it then. I mean, what's disturbing about madits is that you find everything and its opposite, exactly. If we say, it is not necessary to draw an area, we have not defined it as having the size of an average city. What is the logic? There are not any. I tell you, it's not necessary to trace it, well, it's not necessary to trace it.
(Q - Imastoun: The word zone validates the place of departure.)
MB: I don’t see, why?
(Q - Imastoun: It is the only word that differentiates from other possible places.)
MB: I don’t understand why? The starting location is not an area. Well, I don't understand.
(Q - Imastoun: If I may, I intervened because you said, if I may, I would like to summarize, if you allow the ultimate solution, That is to say the last part of the hunt to make sure I understood correctly?)
MB: We'll try, but I'm afraid you're getting too personal, but try.
(Q - Imastoun: Okay, so I review the sentries with the help of the sentries. I also find the final zone there and in this final zone, I find a point that I can consider as this is the point where I have to change the gear and from that moment, I apply according to your words, so I apply the result of 71721075 of the enigma 650 and I apply the pirate's trick to find the cache. Did I summarize correctly or am I missing something?)
MB: What you're talking about is quite complicated, it's not quite the reality.