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12/04/2023 - Enregistrement n° 53 - 08:00 : Map of France: Necessary tool for orientation - Accurate map: potentially useful, not essential

(Q - ??: Hi Michel, speaking of cards, I have a question, I've had a problem for some time, you said some time ago that there was no point in wearing your eyes on the map to find the sentinels, that's not how we found them and you also said that the sentinels had already been found And me when I look at all the people who propose. sentinels, well they all wear out their eyes on the map, everyone takes a starting point, a distance, a direction then they find the Sentinels, I don't see anyone doing otherwise?)

MB: it's the same debate as before, that is to say that there have been so many comments around these card stories and today the debate is completely polluted. The map of France that we take at the start is a tool, so that's the same, I never understood, but I assure you that it's true, I don't understand why Max said, wrote in any case, the map is not a tool. I do not know what that means. Me, when I'm in a car, well not anymore, we have GPS, but in the past, when we were driving a car and we were lost, we got out, we stopped, we took out our map, we looked. It was a very practical tool for orientation. I call it that. I speak basic French, so for me a map is a tool to orient myself. So the map is a tool.

(Q - ??: it's true that this term I too have always had a bit of doubt about this interpretation, but the best thing is to be really clear on this that we…)

MB: ha but I am clear, I am very clear, I tell you, we need the map, it is a necessary tool, the map of France is a necessary tool. After the 2nd map which would be the detailed map of the places, this one is potentially useful, it is a tool that we can have, which is not necessarily essential, especially today where the information is much more… we have many more channels to capture information, we don't just have the map.

(Q - ??: I'm going to ask you the question differently, so not essential, in fact, we can understand that well yes there is always a way to find another way. I'll call the Tourist Office , I ask what is 3 km north of such and such a place and…)

MB: the Tourist Office, we could do it in 93, but what we couldn't do in 93 is use the Internet, today we have the Internet...

(Q - ??: but the question, actually, that is underlying, is where we need to be clear, I think, is, what is the simpler for a researcher, a researcher, [inaudible]…)

MB: it’s a bit like the notion of belt and suspenders. If you really want to be sure not to lose your futal, the best thing is to use both.
It's a joke, but I mean actually it's not... when you're in a specific sector and then you say to yourself well I think it's there, it could be interesting to have the detailed map places, but this is not decisive. Well, I mean we're not on something where if we don't have it, we can't get there, that's it, but it can be an interesting tool...

(Q - ??: looking 3 kilometers to the north, my first instinct will be to take a map, it's not to call the Tourist Office, to find out otherwise, it 'is necessarily taking a card…)

MB: yes but I would like us to understand the image clearly, for example when I find myself confronted with a mess of nuts, which I cannot loosen, whether on a tap or something else, I I have 2 possibilities: I take my water pump pliers or I go and get the key that is just the right size, the water pump pliers, if it slips a little it will damage my nut, the key I know I'm going to be fine, I'm not going to damage the nut.
Either I'm a little, I go like this, or I'm much more meticulous and in which case I'll bring the right key. It's the same system for the detailed map.