(Q - ??: Okay anyway, I have the impression that there are Additional Indications that are really important to find the golden owl and from the moment you
indicate, you give additional Indications I suppose you also want to help there there my… finally)
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MB: Doing this to me on my birthday… it really is my birthday. No, but that’s not nice! Additional Information is bullshit. The Additional Information is all bullshit. Additional Information is monkey money that was exchanged with the media to obtain a certain number of pages.
(Q - ??: Okay, but don't tell me that because I have Additional Directions that are right on the spot with where I think it is. I'm even exhausted being dug near a field and almost throwing myself into a canal.)
MB: Are you and I friends? Do you want to be friends?
(Q Yes, why not?)
MB: What do you expect from a friend?
(Q - ??: Ah, from a friend, trust.)
MB: The truth?
(Q - ??: Also, yes, honesty, you were talking about it too, I think recently)
MB: Well, OK you're wrong. From now on, we are friends.
Wait, let me talk, let me talk to my new friend. From now on we are friends and when I tell you that, I'm not making fun of you at all, I'm telling you stop, there you go, I'm telling you stop. Did we understand each other a little?
(Q - ??: Yes, it seems strange to me though, but yes, we understood each other.)
MB: What are you doing wrong? I tell you, I insist, I maintain. The Supplementary Indications are a product, a bargaining chip with the media. There has never been any intention in the Supplementary Indications, on the part of Max Valentin, to help the Chouetteurs.
There was an intention to exchange, supposedly, extraordinary information, an Additional Information for x pages, a banner on the front page, something et cetera. I attended the discussions, I'm not making this up. I perfectly remember the first meetings with L'Express, with the editor-in-chief of L'Express, a Grand Monsieur Machin bon... Prout, Prout and whatever you want, it's... You give me that, I'll give you give that, there you go. What is the currency of exchange? You give me an Additional Indication, I make you a page, you give me an Additional Indication, a page.. There was never any attention, to help the... these additional indications are not intended to help the cool, they are intended to obtain media space.
(Q - ??: Yeah, it reinforces certain puzzles at worst, because it's true that 90% of the Additional Indications are in fact found in the puzzles. Apart from that, I thought that there still had a few to remove.)
MB: I think there are none, there are none that provide anything in terms of solutions. There is nothing to learn from the Additional Indications other than... if we want to remain positive... well they can reinforce what we were able to find in the puzzles, but frankly there...
(Q - ??: For that I agree, but there are one or two, I have the impression that they still give additional information. Now, I am wrong maybe, eh, it's because I have a very specific place that fits right in with all the enigmas... But a bit like everyone else you'll tell me.)< /u>
MB: But my friend, but my friend… My friend, you are not perhaps wrong, you are surely wrong.
(Q - ??: On Additional Information?)
MB: Yes.
(Q - ??: Even clarity?)
MB: You don't have to look for anything in the Additional Information, honestly, you won't be bothered with that.
(Q - Yekoo: I'm going back a little on the Additional Indications and the information you gave today, in relation to this, precisely, famous Additional Indication which connects the 600 and the 560. Uh , it's something that we can't do without this Additional Indication which has effectively led the game for several years and I wanted to know if we still made a link between... There you go, it's this famous Additional Indication that I'm talking about , it was born turnkey in 560, you find it in… No, in 600, you find it in 560.
Since we said that there was a place in 600, do you confirm that there is a link between a place between 600 and 560 or is it something that we must completely forget given that 'we forgot the Additional Information?)
MB: How do I answer that? I have a... I have extreme empathy for the owl, you shouldn't take that lightly, it's the truth. I have a lot of empathy for all of you who are searching. I say to myself, the people who, much more than me, for 30 years, have devoted thousands of hours to this, have been passionate about it, have made trips, gone digging holes... How can I answer that?
I say that I continue to invite you to keep your distance from all of this. I tell you, try to listen to what I tell you in a simple way, there is no point looking for a hidden meaning in my words, be satisfied with the meaning that is not hidden, visible and... forget everything else What. And from there, things will get better.
(Q - Yekoo?: Very good, thank you I think, that's a pretty clear answer, thank you very much.)
MB: Well, please.
(Q - Roc: Michel. Is there a researcher we haven't seen for a long time, who could speak and that would be good, is it Jeanne? She spoke to us about semiology several months ago already.)
MB: Jeanne, Jeanne, I’m listening to you Jeanne.
(Q - Jeanne: [inaudible at the beginning] it's complicated to get out of it... Well, I don't know.. I don't really know what else to say.) u>
MB: No, but it’s interesting as an approach, it’s very interesting. I am confronted with this on a daily basis in my thoughts, episodically in my discussions like this evening. And this is the real problem that I am faced with, that is to say that I have in front of me a community of researchers , of players, of participants in the game, a somewhat disparate community. There are pros, there are antis, there are people who, in this community, there are people who think that I don't have the right solutions, that I say stupid things that I don't really know about. what I'm talking about, et cetera. Others who think that everything I say is gospel, still others who are in doubt. But there is a community in front of me. A community means that, apart from moments like this evening, we exchange where I am present. There are many more moments when the community functions autonomously where people exchange with each other or say things to each other where certain things are questioned, where other things are affirmed, et cetera.
We talk about that well. And the problem is that this community, even if it doesn't really have one... even if the people who are part of it are not really all aware of it, this community exists and has an influence on the way of thinking. and to reason with all the people who are on the discord.
And therefore, what interests me in what you tell me is that, indeed, the exchange that we have is conditioned by a certain number of filters which are things acquired or reputed as such, commonly accepted elements, irrefutable things or considered as such, which mean that my words, each... each of my words passes through this sieve of the Community and comes out in the form of that, we accept it, that we do not is not sure, we have doubts. Everything is filtered through that and it is true that the Community process, the fact that there are a certain number of criteria, of parameters which are commonly accepted, it is true that this influences the perception that everyone can have of my words and the way he interprets them. This is what I have to say about it.
(Q - Jeanne: Yes, well, I completely agree. Finally, it ties in with certain theoretical texts which say precisely: this hegemonic reception, this reception of “yes but” and this reception really. . which blocks all communication a little, so that's what it's really like. It's really an object of cultural studies, in fact it's crazy, that's it.)
MB: Yeah, it’s crazy, that’s the most accurate word there is, it’s crazy.
(Q - Brybryyy Colibri: I ordered the 5th edition not long ago and I was surprised to receive the 989, so I wanted to thank you first. And I had a quick question for , perhaps, close the vocal, because we will have to work after 10 hours of conclusion.)
MB: How long have we been talking? But I don't even realize, wait, what time is it?
(Q - ??: If Michel enjoys staying a long time in front of his favorite owls.)
MB: Well yes, but it's not that I like it, it's that afterwards... wait..
(Q - ??: Yeah, no, but I have to say it, you love it.)
MB: Well yes, okay... But we have to digest, no, but people have to digest afterwards, the time we spend is enormous. Okay, there’s a question, come on! There is a question that had to come, I listen to the question.
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MB: Doing this to me on my birthday… it really is my birthday. No, but that’s not nice! Additional Information is bullshit. The Additional Information is all bullshit. Additional Information is monkey money that was exchanged with the media to obtain a certain number of pages.
(Q - ??: Okay, but don't tell me that because I have Additional Directions that are right on the spot with where I think it is. I'm even exhausted being dug near a field and almost throwing myself into a canal.)
MB: Are you and I friends? Do you want to be friends?
(Q Yes, why not?)
MB: What do you expect from a friend?
(Q - ??: Ah, from a friend, trust.)
MB: The truth?
(Q - ??: Also, yes, honesty, you were talking about it too, I think recently)
MB: Well, OK you're wrong. From now on, we are friends.
Wait, let me talk, let me talk to my new friend. From now on we are friends and when I tell you that, I'm not making fun of you at all, I'm telling you stop, there you go, I'm telling you stop. Did we understand each other a little?
(Q - ??: Yes, it seems strange to me though, but yes, we understood each other.)
MB: What are you doing wrong? I tell you, I insist, I maintain. The Supplementary Indications are a product, a bargaining chip with the media. There has never been any intention in the Supplementary Indications, on the part of Max Valentin, to help the Chouetteurs.
There was an intention to exchange, supposedly, extraordinary information, an Additional Information for x pages, a banner on the front page, something et cetera. I attended the discussions, I'm not making this up. I perfectly remember the first meetings with L'Express, with the editor-in-chief of L'Express, a Grand Monsieur Machin bon... Prout, Prout and whatever you want, it's... You give me that, I'll give you give that, there you go. What is the currency of exchange? You give me an Additional Indication, I make you a page, you give me an Additional Indication, a page.. There was never any attention, to help the... these additional indications are not intended to help the cool, they are intended to obtain media space.
(Q - ??: Yeah, it reinforces certain puzzles at worst, because it's true that 90% of the Additional Indications are in fact found in the puzzles. Apart from that, I thought that there still had a few to remove.)
MB: I think there are none, there are none that provide anything in terms of solutions. There is nothing to learn from the Additional Indications other than... if we want to remain positive... well they can reinforce what we were able to find in the puzzles, but frankly there...
(Q - ??: For that I agree, but there are one or two, I have the impression that they still give additional information. Now, I am wrong maybe, eh, it's because I have a very specific place that fits right in with all the enigmas... But a bit like everyone else you'll tell me.)< /u>
MB: But my friend, but my friend… My friend, you are not perhaps wrong, you are surely wrong.
(Q - ??: On Additional Information?)
MB: Yes.
(Q - ??: Even clarity?)
MB: You don't have to look for anything in the Additional Information, honestly, you won't be bothered with that.
(Q - Yekoo: I'm going back a little on the Additional Indications and the information you gave today, in relation to this, precisely, famous Additional Indication which connects the 600 and the 560. Uh , it's something that we can't do without this Additional Indication which has effectively led the game for several years and I wanted to know if we still made a link between... There you go, it's this famous Additional Indication that I'm talking about , it was born turnkey in 560, you find it in… No, in 600, you find it in 560.
Since we said that there was a place in 600, do you confirm that there is a link between a place between 600 and 560 or is it something that we must completely forget given that 'we forgot the Additional Information?)
MB: How do I answer that? I have a... I have extreme empathy for the owl, you shouldn't take that lightly, it's the truth. I have a lot of empathy for all of you who are searching. I say to myself, the people who, much more than me, for 30 years, have devoted thousands of hours to this, have been passionate about it, have made trips, gone digging holes... How can I answer that?
I say that I continue to invite you to keep your distance from all of this. I tell you, try to listen to what I tell you in a simple way, there is no point looking for a hidden meaning in my words, be satisfied with the meaning that is not hidden, visible and... forget everything else What. And from there, things will get better.
(Q - Yekoo?: Very good, thank you I think, that's a pretty clear answer, thank you very much.)
MB: Well, please.
(Q - Roc: Michel. Is there a researcher we haven't seen for a long time, who could speak and that would be good, is it Jeanne? She spoke to us about semiology several months ago already.)
MB: Jeanne, Jeanne, I’m listening to you Jeanne.
(Q - Jeanne: [inaudible at the beginning] it's complicated to get out of it... Well, I don't know.. I don't really know what else to say.) u>
MB: No, but it’s interesting as an approach, it’s very interesting. I am confronted with this on a daily basis in my thoughts, episodically in my discussions like this evening. And this is the real problem that I am faced with, that is to say that I have in front of me a community of researchers , of players, of participants in the game, a somewhat disparate community. There are pros, there are antis, there are people who, in this community, there are people who think that I don't have the right solutions, that I say stupid things that I don't really know about. what I'm talking about, et cetera. Others who think that everything I say is gospel, still others who are in doubt. But there is a community in front of me. A community means that, apart from moments like this evening, we exchange where I am present. There are many more moments when the community functions autonomously where people exchange with each other or say things to each other where certain things are questioned, where other things are affirmed, et cetera.
We talk about that well. And the problem is that this community, even if it doesn't really have one... even if the people who are part of it are not really all aware of it, this community exists and has an influence on the way of thinking. and to reason with all the people who are on the discord.
And therefore, what interests me in what you tell me is that, indeed, the exchange that we have is conditioned by a certain number of filters which are things acquired or reputed as such, commonly accepted elements, irrefutable things or considered as such, which mean that my words, each... each of my words passes through this sieve of the Community and comes out in the form of that, we accept it, that we do not is not sure, we have doubts. Everything is filtered through that and it is true that the Community process, the fact that there are a certain number of criteria, of parameters which are commonly accepted, it is true that this influences the perception that everyone can have of my words and the way he interprets them. This is what I have to say about it.
(Q - Jeanne: Yes, well, I completely agree. Finally, it ties in with certain theoretical texts which say precisely: this hegemonic reception, this reception of “yes but” and this reception really. . which blocks all communication a little, so that's what it's really like. It's really an object of cultural studies, in fact it's crazy, that's it.)
MB: Yeah, it’s crazy, that’s the most accurate word there is, it’s crazy.
(Q - Brybryyy Colibri: I ordered the 5th edition not long ago and I was surprised to receive the 989, so I wanted to thank you first. And I had a quick question for , perhaps, close the vocal, because we will have to work after 10 hours of conclusion.)
MB: How long have we been talking? But I don't even realize, wait, what time is it?
(Q - ??: If Michel enjoys staying a long time in front of his favorite owls.)
MB: Well yes, but it's not that I like it, it's that afterwards... wait..
(Q - ??: Yeah, no, but I have to say it, you love it.)
MB: Well yes, okay... But we have to digest, no, but people have to digest afterwards, the time we spend is enormous. Okay, there’s a question, come on! There is a question that had to come, I listen to the question.