(Q - Apollo: Let's go back to what we were talking about earlier, you said that the hunt was intended to go to a place and then Max wanted to give an additional indication to advance the
things.)
MB: Yes, yes, I understand well, but that's what I'm talking about, that is to say that when the hunt was designed, it was designed by Régis Hauser, communicator , communications consultant, mail order expert, etc… Whatever you want… So, a guy who had an office somewhere in the Parisian suburbs and then who was looking to get clients, build up a clientele, et cetera…< br /> Here, we are in a context which is completely understandable and acceptable.
(Q: And then everyone arrives, everyone arrives at a place. I don't know everyone arrives in Dabo and then tac we send an indication. Well, he would have given an additional indication, so that the most advanced would find the right thing, that was the goal…)
MB: But I can see that you are trying to refocus me, but I am not digressing, I am responding to you. What I mean, we are going to be a little more incisive and basic, what I mean is that we are dealing with a communicator who has produced a product intended for a client who wants to sell something.
Consequently, this product, the treasure hunt, must be appetizing for participants, make them want to participate so that many people are interested in it, and manageable. We sell a product so at a given moment, we must manage the duration, we must manage the moment when there will be a winner, because we believe that it is the right moment because the thing, the operation has lasted quite a long time. It is the right time. We decree that there needs to be a winner, we release information so that there is a winner. That's how he conceived of hunting.
Except that there was a huge grain of sand in the cogs. It’s because the Owl has been seized.
We are in 2014 [Editor's note: Understanding 2004]. There is a liquidation, the publishing company in which Max Valentin is involved, although he says that he doesn't know, he didn't know and whatever, in short... La Chouette is seized. So from there, the schedule changes. The data is no longer the same. But there wouldn't have been this unfortunate episode, we're going to ignore it, there's no point dwelling on it, there wouldn't have been the seizure of the Owl, let's imagine that it wouldn't have happened. is not produced. Editions du Trésor, In-folio… in short, at the time, would not have gone bankrupt, La Chouette would not have been seized, What would have happened?
A Max Valentin had started to sell, well started to sell, treasure hunts for more or less prestigious clients, whatever, and he had started to develop a business which was the “Treasure Hunt” product as a promotional tool for 'A brand. It was Microsoft, it was the city of Angers. It was whatever you want… It was about promoting a product through a treasure hunt.
And so, he had the hunt for the Golden Owl going on. We were in the years 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 [Editor's note: understand 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006]. He was starting…yes it was his window, but at the same time…
(Q - Apollo: on the MaxValentin.com site, we had the showcase of the Golden Owl and then there were all the hunts next to it. You see)
MB: well all the hunts, there aren't many
(Q - Apollo: there are a few.)
MB: I know him, well not a lot, there are a few. And so.
(Q - Blackbeard: Patek Philippe, do you talk about it a little bit or not?)
MB: It has nothing to do with Max Valentin, Patek Philippe.
No. Patek Philippe is something else. Patek Philippe is the most prestigious brand in Swiss watchmaking. All right ? and it turns out that when we launched the Chouette d'or operation with my friend Hervé, my friend Hervé had planned to launch his own watch and jewelry brand and I had designed products for him. The products that I had designed for this brand were finally sold to Patek Philippe, which notably published the watch that I had designed, but that's okay, I'll tell you, but it's no correlation. Yes, it has no correlation with the debate.
(Q - Apollo: Go on, go on, go on, go on…)
MB: yes, in fact. There would not have been the episode of the seizure of the Owl... The seizure of the Owl is linked to the fact that the publishing company went bankrupt The Liquidator found the keys to the safe and went to open it the chest, found the Golden Owl and took the Golden Owl. This comes from the fact, as I wrote in the last edition, Under the seal of secrecy, from the fact that Max Valentin, at a given moment, considers that the Chouette d'or, he was grand master on board and that he could do what he wanted, so he took it from the bailiff, he took it, he did with it what he wanted and he took it so well, that he was seized.
And so from there, his philosophy, his vision of the Golden Owl game changed because from the moment the Owl was seized, it still lasted, from 2014 to 2019…
(Q - Roc: No 2004, 2009.)
MB: Sorry, 2004, 2009, excuse me. It's age, don't blame me. So 2004 2009 effectively for 5 years the owl was blocked, seized. And for 5 years, he knew that if there was a winner, he couldn't give him the Golden Owl, since he no longer had it
(Q - Apollo: In addition, at the time, there were already a lot of people in the area 2004, 2009.)
MB: Which area? which area?
(Q - Apollo: On the area.)
MB: But which area?
(Q - Apollo: Me, I'm thinking of Dabo, obviously.)
MB: Ah, were there a lot of people on Dabo at the time?
(Q - Apollon: Well yes, there were already a lot of people on Dabo in 2004 to 2005.)
MB: Ah OK, I thought it was because of me that there were so many people in Dabo only recently. Am I wrong...so?
(Q - Apollo: No no, you are wrong…)
MB: Yeah Clearly. Clearly, if there had not been these episodes, if these unfortunate episodes had not occurred, whatever they may be, and whatever the cause, it doesn't matter, we are not here to debate That. If there had not been this seizure, if there had not been all these problems, not only legal but judicial, I would say around the owl, it is obvious that from the years 2014 2015, the interest of a Max Valentin, salesman, tenor in matters of treasure hunting... his interest was to discover the Owl, therefore to validate the fact that when we announced that there was a treasure and it was there . That was his interest, that it was discovered and that he published the book of solutions on which he had reserved exclusive copyright, etc.... So, he did a touch of editing. He made a lot of money. That was his interest. So, if the Golden Owl had not been seized, I can tell you that between 2016 and 2017, it would have been discovered. And that Max Valentin would have done what was necessary.
(Q - Apollo: What date do you say? In 2016, 2017?)
MB: Um sorry, 2006, 2007. It's true, I'm still 10 years behind. Forgive me, I'm still 10 years behind, Roc has corrected me very well and so have you. Thank you, so.
MB: Yes, yes, I understand well, but that's what I'm talking about, that is to say that when the hunt was designed, it was designed by Régis Hauser, communicator , communications consultant, mail order expert, etc… Whatever you want… So, a guy who had an office somewhere in the Parisian suburbs and then who was looking to get clients, build up a clientele, et cetera…< br /> Here, we are in a context which is completely understandable and acceptable.
(Q: And then everyone arrives, everyone arrives at a place. I don't know everyone arrives in Dabo and then tac we send an indication. Well, he would have given an additional indication, so that the most advanced would find the right thing, that was the goal…)
MB: But I can see that you are trying to refocus me, but I am not digressing, I am responding to you. What I mean, we are going to be a little more incisive and basic, what I mean is that we are dealing with a communicator who has produced a product intended for a client who wants to sell something.
Consequently, this product, the treasure hunt, must be appetizing for participants, make them want to participate so that many people are interested in it, and manageable. We sell a product so at a given moment, we must manage the duration, we must manage the moment when there will be a winner, because we believe that it is the right moment because the thing, the operation has lasted quite a long time. It is the right time. We decree that there needs to be a winner, we release information so that there is a winner. That's how he conceived of hunting.
Except that there was a huge grain of sand in the cogs. It’s because the Owl has been seized.
We are in 2014 [Editor's note: Understanding 2004]. There is a liquidation, the publishing company in which Max Valentin is involved, although he says that he doesn't know, he didn't know and whatever, in short... La Chouette is seized. So from there, the schedule changes. The data is no longer the same. But there wouldn't have been this unfortunate episode, we're going to ignore it, there's no point dwelling on it, there wouldn't have been the seizure of the Owl, let's imagine that it wouldn't have happened. is not produced. Editions du Trésor, In-folio… in short, at the time, would not have gone bankrupt, La Chouette would not have been seized, What would have happened?
A Max Valentin had started to sell, well started to sell, treasure hunts for more or less prestigious clients, whatever, and he had started to develop a business which was the “Treasure Hunt” product as a promotional tool for 'A brand. It was Microsoft, it was the city of Angers. It was whatever you want… It was about promoting a product through a treasure hunt.
And so, he had the hunt for the Golden Owl going on. We were in the years 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 [Editor's note: understand 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006]. He was starting…yes it was his window, but at the same time…
(Q - Apollo: on the MaxValentin.com site, we had the showcase of the Golden Owl and then there were all the hunts next to it. You see)
MB: well all the hunts, there aren't many
(Q - Apollo: there are a few.)
MB: I know him, well not a lot, there are a few. And so.
(Q - Blackbeard: Patek Philippe, do you talk about it a little bit or not?)
MB: It has nothing to do with Max Valentin, Patek Philippe.
No. Patek Philippe is something else. Patek Philippe is the most prestigious brand in Swiss watchmaking. All right ? and it turns out that when we launched the Chouette d'or operation with my friend Hervé, my friend Hervé had planned to launch his own watch and jewelry brand and I had designed products for him. The products that I had designed for this brand were finally sold to Patek Philippe, which notably published the watch that I had designed, but that's okay, I'll tell you, but it's no correlation. Yes, it has no correlation with the debate.
(Q - Apollo: Go on, go on, go on, go on…)
MB: yes, in fact. There would not have been the episode of the seizure of the Owl... The seizure of the Owl is linked to the fact that the publishing company went bankrupt The Liquidator found the keys to the safe and went to open it the chest, found the Golden Owl and took the Golden Owl. This comes from the fact, as I wrote in the last edition, Under the seal of secrecy, from the fact that Max Valentin, at a given moment, considers that the Chouette d'or, he was grand master on board and that he could do what he wanted, so he took it from the bailiff, he took it, he did with it what he wanted and he took it so well, that he was seized.
And so from there, his philosophy, his vision of the Golden Owl game changed because from the moment the Owl was seized, it still lasted, from 2014 to 2019…
(Q - Roc: No 2004, 2009.)
MB: Sorry, 2004, 2009, excuse me. It's age, don't blame me. So 2004 2009 effectively for 5 years the owl was blocked, seized. And for 5 years, he knew that if there was a winner, he couldn't give him the Golden Owl, since he no longer had it
(Q - Apollo: In addition, at the time, there were already a lot of people in the area 2004, 2009.)
MB: Which area? which area?
(Q - Apollo: On the area.)
MB: But which area?
(Q - Apollo: Me, I'm thinking of Dabo, obviously.)
MB: Ah, were there a lot of people on Dabo at the time?
(Q - Apollon: Well yes, there were already a lot of people on Dabo in 2004 to 2005.)
MB: Ah OK, I thought it was because of me that there were so many people in Dabo only recently. Am I wrong...so?
(Q - Apollo: No no, you are wrong…)
MB: Yeah Clearly. Clearly, if there had not been these episodes, if these unfortunate episodes had not occurred, whatever they may be, and whatever the cause, it doesn't matter, we are not here to debate That. If there had not been this seizure, if there had not been all these problems, not only legal but judicial, I would say around the owl, it is obvious that from the years 2014 2015, the interest of a Max Valentin, salesman, tenor in matters of treasure hunting... his interest was to discover the Owl, therefore to validate the fact that when we announced that there was a treasure and it was there . That was his interest, that it was discovered and that he published the book of solutions on which he had reserved exclusive copyright, etc.... So, he did a touch of editing. He made a lot of money. That was his interest. So, if the Golden Owl had not been seized, I can tell you that between 2016 and 2017, it would have been discovered. And that Max Valentin would have done what was necessary.
(Q - Apollo: What date do you say? In 2016, 2017?)
MB: Um sorry, 2006, 2007. It's true, I'm still 10 years behind. Forgive me, I'm still 10 years behind, Roc has corrected me very well and so have you. Thank you, so.