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15/12/2022 - Enregistrement n° 49 - 22:00 : 600 - The riddle gives us a location

(Q - nlc: but what we are missing is in the current puzzle or is it for later, so that's the question...?)
(Q – Palestrina: that’s precisely my question. In fact, you answered in fact, for me it’s not even a question, it’s a clarification that I would actually like. You answered Roc, Some time ago the 600 gave a location and he asked you again not so long ago and you revalidated the thing But I would like you to confirm just that, when you say that the 600. gives a location, we agree that that means that when we leave the 600 we have a location immediately, like what you said just before. In fact, that is to say that. nothing remains, that we have an enigma, we solve it what you tell us is that the 600…)


MB : absolutely, completely…

(Q - Palestrina: can you repeat that?)

MB : Yes, I confirm it to you.

(Q - Palestrina: very good we find it in 600.)
(Q - Roc: Yes, but that won't settle the Palestrina debate...)
(Q – Palestrina: I think that settles a large part of the debate and you know it very well)
(Q – Roc: let me speak Palestrina. There are people who consider that a black ship perched, it is a place and therefore they say, I found the phrase and I have my place, even s 'it is possible…
(Q – Palestrina: a place is a place somewhere in France…)
(Q – Roc: and so there are people who say that it is, it is not a place located on the map, it is a place that we do not know and therefore the question remains unresolved. )
(Q - Palestrina: We know him because Michel has just told you that when we leave the 600, we have a place, we have therefore obtained it at the limit, even if it can be an imaginary place, eh, why not)
(Q – Roc: because the question to remove, to settle this debate, once and for all, is the place in 600 can we locate it on the first map? Is that the question? Is it what Michel can you answer?)


MB : then you fall…No, no, I don’t want to answer that. Can we find it on the first map or not, anyway…

(Q – Palestrina: whatever…)

MB : Yeah, I was going to say…

(Q – Palestrina: it’s not… it exists somewhere, that’s just it Michel, it’s a place that is somewhere…)

MB : in any case a place, a place, is a geographical point, so a geographical point if we do not see it on a map, it exists on all maps. Now, when a map is on too large a scale, indeed, we cannot locate it with precision, it is a notion of precision of the map but a place is a geographical place, it is necessarily a place.

(Q – Roc: That is very clear. I thank you for that because there are people who distinguish between an object which is not, which is located somewhere , but we have to geographically locate this object, in 600…)
(Q – immortal tofu: in 600 that is the question above all… But we have not had confirmation if it was in 600 that it had to be geographically located.)
(Q - Palestrina: If from the 600 I asked, this is the beginning of my question in the…)


MB : no but listen, listen to me, listen to me, listen to me, there is also this famous debate on whether the map is a tool or not, we are really in cutting, haircutting in 4, Max said the map is not a tool, I am a very basic person, I say the map, it is a tool like a compass, like a compass, like a ruler like a pencil, they are tools, like a map, and consequently they are things, objects that we use to advance our research and our details, etc.
So a map is a tool, you are free to use this or that map at such or such a scale and that's it. But when we talk about a place, it is a geographical place, so it exists precisely somewhere and depending on the map we use, we see it, we do not see it, but we know where it is all the same. , but we cannot determine it in a precise way and so on, but that's all.
After one or the other…

(Q – Palestrina: in fact the debate here is more about temporality Michel, the question is whether we can determine and define it from the 600 I will say it clearly, there you go, I I'll say it clearly, in a very well-known track,)

MB : I will answer you very clearly…

(Q – Palestrina: in a very well-known track we find a phrase and leave it hanging…)

MB : No, no, no, no, there is nothing to leave unresolved. There is nothing to leave undone in the 600.

(Q – Nabil: Good evening Michel. In fact, I am going to clarify the question. Basically, the question is I arrive in 600 I finish at 600 whether on the specific map or on the card 989 I point to a place Is that it?)

MB : Yes, but at the limit…

(Q – Nabil: on a precise map or a larger scale map, I point out a place, so you confirm that?)

MB : Yes, yes.

(Q – Nabil: Okay, when I take the puzzles in order, and at the end of 600 I solve the 600…)
(Q: Uncle Nono: if you point to the big map, you also point to a small map so that doesn’t confirm anything…)
(Q – Nabil: yes, but whatever the map, whatever the precision, I do my puzzles, but at the end of 600, I say, whatever the map, hop, it’s there, so that’s it, Michel?)


MB : I say yes again then we stop that's 15 times I've said yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that's it OK I said yes, let's move on.